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Everyone is wondering, which way it is likely to go. you are so intimately involved. we are trying to figure out where you think going? >> it is highly speculative. all i can say again is i presume when egypt does set on a free and fair elections, when it is able to instill all of the reforms in place, it will rely on its experience and its history, culture, the nature of its people to compile the government that represents it and its aspirations. >> greta: you can watch more of our interview at gretawire.com. >> coming up, who is in charge of egypt tonight? we are told military council. what ...

The hands of the muslim brotherhood better to have a ling democracy than to have an authoritarian regime. there would be an end to mubarak he's 82-year-old sometime in the near future. better that we have it with a democratic opportunity than not. but nonetheless it was done in a way that it left bruised feelings. >> greta: i have a theory. he got criticized for not -- in june of 2009 coming out and on the protesters in iran and i think he was reacting to that. >> he could have say the people of egypt deserve free and fair elections. there's a difference between saying that and having a privat...

. >> greta: earlier today karl rove went on the record. there are some reporters that some of our allies, are disappointed or on edge about what we -- whether or not we've thrown president mubarak under the bus. how should the administration handle that? >> i think there's some criticism of the administration for taking such a public course on calling for mubarak's ouster. it is one thing for the president to have a private conversation as he had. another thing to tell the media what he has told mubarak. i can understand why people like the king of saudi arabia and others in the region would b...

That egypt and now that you have an election, and egyptian people pick who they want to lead them there. are two directions to go. one in a direction more like iran not something that united states looks great favor on and the other direction which would be much more an greek to the united states -- much more agreeable to the united states and one we don't worry about. is there a chance egyptians will go to the polls and pick a leader or government much like you see in iran? >> in our case i believe there is always a third alternative. that is govenment to govern egypt. there will be an egypti...

Been like a tower of babel on this. they start out with hillary clinton declaring in the early days and hours of the crisis the mubarak regime is . then we have the -- is stable. then we have gibbs saying now which means yesterday. the director of intelligence saying the muslim brotherhood is a largely secular organization. you have the president interviewed by bill o'reilly being asked two for three times, do you want the muslim brotherhood in charge of egypt? he ducks the question, won't answer it. really? >> greta: you say he's duped the media. >> that was in reference to several media outl...