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A serving officer, and you had a fraction of these documents, what would have happened to you? >> jake mentioned a moment ago, anderson, about how governor desantis, and i will include senator graham, ron bacon from nebraska, and all of them served in the military, and yes, they did. bacon was a retired one star, and desantis was a one-time navy jag, and so all of them know the implications of this, but what i would say is that ti back up what director clapper just said. this is not as much of a document case to me as it is a national security case. there have been literally been hundreds of d...

States. he had no reason there was no need to know for him of the information that he was accessing in the department of fence emits in the affidavit that they had the ability to track him. international security analyst and former director of national intelligence. james clapper joins us now, uh, director clapper, thanks so much for being with us, as always. we appreciate it. let me ask you. i mean, your sense of where things stand right now, with this case are you of the mindset that this was leak that was devastating to us national security or we just don't have enough facts to come to that...

Vetting appropriate, abby? yeah lots of questions there on that exact point, natasha bertrand, thank you very much. and the president just issued a new statement. in part, it reads, quote. i have directed our military and intelligence community to take steps to further secure and limit distribution of sensitive information, and our national security team is closely coordinating with our partners and our allies. now let's bring in our former director of national intelligence, james clapper. director clapper. many of our viewers will remember you were the nation's spy chief during the edward sno...

Operational security measures to park the airplanes in the hane g -- hangars and shut down communication, and those in bomber bases, they are secured by landline or buried underground, so i don't think that it posed an intrinsic threat, and these other device, it is hard to know. we need to know the information. >> i am concerned about the concerns of escalation, because china said within days of the first balloon, they have the right to do the same, and now they say they have spotted something over their air space, thane may shoot it down, and do you, director clapper, become a tit-for-tat wi...

Intelligence as director clapper was saying. we found out we knew several years ago they were doing this. it wasn't disclosed because we didn't want the chinese to know that we knew. that's something that's important. so bring the congress in, the big eight, and sit down with them and let them know what's going on in terms of how we're going to approach this in the future. you'll have less people coming out and being critical. >> they don't china's president xi was aware of an order to send the spy balloon over the u.s. if the latest object turns out to be china again, first of all, do you buy...