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Of villages and towns and now the ukrainians are on the offensive, this momentum will build on their case. now, you know, we discussed the potential for belarus to enter the war. well, i think that will cause a problem for the ukrainians just because whatever the numbers are, but from a quality standpoint, belorussian soldiers i think are probably lesser capability than the russians. so that will be more cannon fodder for the -- more targets for the ukrainians. >> director clapper, i appreciate your assistance tonight. thank you. >> thanks, anderson. in a city preparing for a ground battle, ...

The state of things with the russians and the depletion of their combat forces and materiel for that matter in ukraine. >> one last one, director clapper. you mentioned the mosaic. i want to bring up the map that shows the nato countries. slovakia said it's willing to give some of those s-300, higher altitude anti-aircraft missiles but needs a backup. if you're still in your dni job and you realize that a lot of the russian firepower is coming from its side of the border here, what are you talking about? what contingenessies, ideas, out of the box thinking. if we won't put our own boots on the...

Shift in strategy in ukraine, we have an extraordinary group of military and intelligence experts to discuss. thank you all for coming. director clapper, i want to start with you and ask about the russian military and if you look on here i'm going to show you where the russian military is attacking on four fronts starting with kyiv, kharkiv and the donbas area and up through crimea. so the russian general that we heard this week talk about the fact that the first phase of the russian operation is almost complete and then they would turn to a more limited goal of donbas, how do you read that mo...

Director clapper -- i'm sorry, were you going to say something? oh, that's okay. i was just saying that it is. it's very worrying, considering the power he has at his fingertips. director clapper, appreciate it as always. coming up next, we'll talk to a retire marine who is back from training, training ordinary ukrainians to do the extraordinary, fighting to protect their country. [sound of helicopter blades] ugh... they found me. ♪ ♪

Director clapper, just hours frr from now, the next talks between russia and ukraine will happen. president zelenskyy is willing to accept nonneutral status. how vulnerable would that leave ukraine and do you think putin would be open to that? >> well, actually, i mean, it sounds like zelenskyy is making a big concession and he really isn't. going back to the so-called budapest memorandum of 1994 where the neutrality, the spirit of which was the neutrality of ukraine was guaranteed. ukraine agreed to have removed all the nuclear weapons from the soviet era. so it sounds great. it's good from a...