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Rails or was going too far. that, again, raises that question of, like, what kind of cloud was there? i mean, this is the day after it happened, and he immediately kicks everybody out of the room, pulls the fbi director aside and says, i hope you can change what you're going to do, i hope i can steer you in the direction that i want this to go. obvious interference. >> so, let's bring up the cloud one, because it is the corollary to the request about letting flynn go. so, put up the cloud language and we'll read it, all right? "on the morning of march 30, the president called me at the fbi. he...

Mentioned are the ones i like so much are -- they have a very individual stamp of a director thinking about how to tell the story. just even the fact that nebraska is in black and white, you know, that it's using a lot of nonprofessional arctors who liv in this town in nebraska, suggests that alexander payne has freedom working in this medium to tell this in an idio sencratic and individual way, the way the cohen brothers do or spike jonze. >> a lot of people argue the thing films can do is big. big blockbuster, super hero, this and that, but you're argue in some ways the complete opposite. wh...