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Giulia giuliani. >> i never met him or had phone calls with him. >> earlier today, they are trying to find out about what giuliani was doing, what kind of investigation was he carrying out in this role as the president's private attorney and dirt digger. i spoke to the former foreign minister for five years. he was a foreign minister while joe biden was vice president. and i asked what he thought about this exploration mission and he said that many of them were quite uncomfortable about this whole thing and uncomfortable about this private envoy's role. >> did you know about giuliani's missi

Politically. and while the whistle-blower focused on the july 25th phone call, new reporting indicates it was not the first time president trump tried to push his dirt digger rudy giuliani onto the ukrainian president. "the new york times" reports just hours after president zelensky's victory on april 21st, president trump placed a congratulateory call to him and, quote, urged mr. zelensky to cooperate, actually coordinate with mr. giuliani and pursue investigations of corruption, according to people familiar with the call. they're going after joe biden back then. i'm joined by maya wily. and ...