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As both a lobbyist and a p.r. guy, having to do with the former soviet space. and he is a pretty talented operator. >> yeah, he's -- my sense is he's kind of a man about time in d.c. people know him, he knows the right people, he is at different functions. he's not some obscure figure. >> no, that's certainly true. >> what did he say about how he ended up in this meeting? >> he had been working for a russian company run by a -- own ed by an that was among other things tries to water down the sanctions that were targeting russi russian. and one of the people that he worked with was this russian...

And it's heartbreaking. i know governor casic isn't with it, but i suspect he's very troubled to know that in ohio alone, nearly 60,000 disabl ed citizens are stuck on waiting lists. >> joining me now, jim manley, the former chief spokesperson for senate majority leader harry reid. i should know that disability rights groups are dramatically and almost unanimously opposed to this bill, and they have been protesting for none that thinks this is going to help those folks. i saw someone basically said it's encouraging to mcconnell that he got two quick nos, but the dam has held. if it leaks, it's...