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A liberal was able to pick up the pieces and win in 1968 and again in 1972 when jared ford governed in the same moderate philosophy. so i view that as the possible outcome of this election, if a donald trump were to get the nomination. i don't think there's any chance he would win. i think he'd lose in a landslide. >> tim pawlenty, your reaction. >> with all do respect, the notion that goldwater's failure led to a better future in the form of richard nixon is preposterous, he was a disaster philosophy, policy standpoint, economically in many other respects and disaster personally. jared ford t...

As much as we might even support those ideas, it's stupid to support ideas that cannot win, and the result of that was that richard nixon, by the standards of that time, quite a moderate, certainly governed virtually as a liberal was able to pick up the pieces and win in 1968 and again in 1972 when jared ford governed in the same moderate philosophy. so i view that as the possible outcome of this election, if a donald trump were to get the nomination. i don't think there's any chance he would win. i think he'd lose in a landslide. >> tim pawlenty, your reaction. >> with all do respect, the not...