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Can the pope credibly discipline other bishops if his own record on this issue is not any better, and that is the question he has to answer if he is going to be able to lead. >> and also to sinead o'connor's point is that essentially a lot of people in ireland believe that the vatican is pretending this is an irish problem and that there was no impact from the vatican on this at all, and that is kind of over the years how they have dealt with the crisis, that it was at firstt a american catholic church problem and nen in brazil and other places, and now, and that is why the "national catholic ...

Makes the revelations about the pope so explosive, because what it gets to is this question -- can the pope credibly discipline other bishops if his own record on this issue is not any better, and that is the question he has to answer if he is going to be able to lead. >> and also to sinead o'connor's point is that essentially a lot of people in ireland believe that the vatican is pretending this is an irish problem and that there was no impact from the vatican on this at all, and that is kind of over the years how they have dealt with the crisis, that it was at firstt a american catholic chur...

Transparency with what he may have done in his official capacity. >> well, in a nutshell, i think it's really, really bad. i think the bottom line is that what is at stake here is not so much criticism of the pope's policies, or sort of the vatican's corporate response to the crisis, but really his personal moral authority. i think what a lot of people would say is that the sexual abuse crisis is two props. it's the priest who abused and the bishops who covered up. >> who covered up. >> and the question that is now being asked is can the pope credibly discipline other bishops if his own track ...