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Charges in this case involve second degree murder but also aggravated assault and aggravated kidnapping. those elements are well-established, so we'll have to see what the concern is there. >> is that part of the course to put that ask out there, joyce, and does that give you any indication of possible defense in this? >> it really doesn't. sometimes you'll see a defendant file a motion for a bill of particulars if they believe the indictment is insufficiently specific. but here the facts are well-known, the situation is well-known. it's tough to see what that's driving at, and the prosecution...

Judge's orders and that he was doing what was asked of him. we know that that's not true. because he didn't even sign the affidavit which basically said that he was in compliance. so the fact that he is saying that, it is part of what was presented to the attorney general's office, and it is a clear indication that indicatiot very likely that an attempt to appeal this is going to be successful. now, what it means going forward is that either he is going to pay a very, very hefty fine, or the judge can seek additional measures in terms of trying to enforce the subpoena. and i'm sorry, the conte...

It a treasure-trove, a sewer, but you have a lot of stuff down there. >> if you look carefully at the motion, it looks to me like much of that stuff mueller already had. but it has to go through a review to make sure there's nothing -- all of the evidence has to go through a review to make sure there's no attorney/client privilege. that's going to slow it down even more. but there are a couple really big hints in not only the indictment but the discovery filing that mueller is about to go forward on something larger. the first is in the indictment, that famous paragraph 12 that has somebody --...

>> if you look carefully at the motion, it looks to me like much of that stuff mueller already had. but its to the go through a review to make sure there's nothing -- all of the evidences to the go through review to make sure there's no attorney-client privilege. but there are a cuouple really big hints in not only the indictment but the discovery filing that mueller is about to go forward on something larger. the first is in the indictment, that famous paragraph 12 that has somebody -- one big shot directing another big shot to call -- to direct him to check in with wikileaks. and what we kno...

See him killed. >> when we took this case on 11 1/2 years ago, i don't think we expected to be sitting here today, waiting for a decision on just a discovery motion seeking access to testing materials that should be tested. >> rollins' petition includes a 2005 affidavit from jailhouse snitch john hall, admitting he gave walter's story to jay wolchansky. the d.a.'s office has argued that regardless of hall's statement, they still have walter's original confession. >> judy rubino told the jury at the second trial that the confession was a lie. so how they can now come back, trial "a" is confessi...