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Statement and gave it to jay wolchansky to use against walter ogrod, what would that mean to you? >> i don't know how you can do that. >> i have now documented that that story was fabricated by john hall. >> no, you haven't and unless you have something from jay saying that none of that was told to him by walter and that he made it all up and hae's willing to testify to the fact that he committed perjury, that's something else. >> at one point she said to me i thought you were trying to write a book, not get the guy a new trial. >> i said i'm trying to find the truth of this. the notion that t...

That walter wanted to marry sharon fahy the little girl's mother. he's going to murder the little girl and he's going to do it in some way that police look at john fahy for the crime. sharon will be distraught and walter will go over and comfort her and they will fall in love and be married. >> he had lured the girl across the street and tried to penetrate her. this story convicted with walter's own confession. >> wolchansky took what what was a crime of opportunity, walter sees young girl, walter tries to molest young girl and makes it into a premeditated, month's long stalking by walter ogro...

>> and john sat down with jay and he gave jay the story, and he helped jay write the letter to the d.a.'s office. at the trial, the prosecution told the jury that neither john hall or jay wo wilchansky got a teal for what they did. >> john wrote to me and said he got a sweet deal. john was looking at 50 years and the ogrod case got him off. jay wolchansky only got a few months. >> i had no idea that a d.a.'s office such as in philadelphia could use a snitch ring, you know, could use a guy like john hall over and over and over again. i have the paperwork. i have phyllis, and it's all fitting to...

Journalist, but i knew i was onto something, and i had to keep going. >> tom found clues that jay wolchansky's story may have actually been invented by a fellow inmate, an infamous snitch named john hall. >> john hall's specialty was to take murder cases for which there is no evidence and give the prosecution a conviction. there's this 1997 article in the daily news about john hall, who everybody calls the monsignor because he's heard more confessions than a priest. >> the article said john hall had spoken with police about walter. tom wanted to know why. >> just boggled my mind. the story tha...

See him killed. >> when we took this case on 11 1/2 years ago, i don't think we expected to be sitting here today, waiting for a decision on just a discovery motion seeking access to testing materials that should be tested. >> rollins' petition includes a 2005 affidavit from jailhouse snitch john hall, admitting he gave walter's story to jay wolchansky. the d.a.'s office has argued that regardless of hall's statement, they still have walter's original confession. >> judy rubino told the jury at the second trial that the confession was a lie. so how they can now come back, trial "a" is confessi...