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Microphones. sure. there are leaks, sure. it's different than doing it in a big public display. >> it reminds me and something i'm familiar with in civil litigation. we're in the discovery phase. i think you make a good observation. i wonder if when this phase is over, will they then come forward with some form of a report that they regard as the justification of impeachment. but i think their cause would be aided if there were sunlight shone son some of these individuals. for instance, if they saw taye already testify and back up what he said in those text messages. >> i've been wondering abo...

Go after his estate? the estate now it could be under the guardianship of someone else. >> it could be. i allows for the u.s. government to pursue proceedings against some of his assets which they may have been hold for the victims. >> would that have been different if he's still alive? >> shaun, the new york arch diocese says it paid for compensation funds and those victims waived their rights to file a suit. how did this change that? >> well, you know they say they paid $65 million. they may have done one or two billion dollars worth of damages. what they paid out and the damages that they d...

State of new york. all the cases being filed will have discovery cases. we'll find out how many jeffery epsteins there are and how many boy scouts or coaches or parents or doctors? this is just the steps in filing of the discovery phase of this suit and law is really what it is going to protect children throughout new york. >> to that point though, jennifer, how difficult will the discovery phase be if these cases are 10 or 20 or 30 years old. the alleged perpetrators may be dead. other witnesses may be. how difficult is discovery? >> discovery includes the victims telling their story and ther...

During the civil litigation, do you imagine those names will come up as well? >> absolutely. one of the advantages i have as the attorney, the discovery phase, that gives me as an attorney the power to issue subpoenas to get documents and force people to give me information and papers that they don't want to give me. i can force people to come into my os, raise their right hand to tell the truth and do a deposition in my office. the big part of compensation for victims at the end it, but it's the whole process of transparency of learning what happened. and i can tell you that one of the civil ...

Their embassies, many of them moved it to the hotel. >> it is a dramatic change that took place but i can understand that's hard to prove in court of that kind of motive. do you think this is the end of it or the other case proceeds separately? >> d.c. and maryland can ask the full circuit to hear the case or go to the supreme court. the lawsuit for separate ones filed by members of congress is in the discovery phase where they are getting financial documents. the president now has moved to ask the d.c. court of appeals to throw it out as well. the track records on these em emolument case are ...