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Are putting out, something also al qaeda are putting out. we are fighting a narrative. we are fighting an ideology. we're not fighting organizations anymore. >> a group or this or that. >> no. it's mutated with al qaeda and isis. a lot of times when we see these kind of people who are inspired or acting on behalf of terrorist organizations, especially in the west, we see a flurry boundary between the way they view isis and al qaeda. rahimy in new york for example, who was the chelsea bomber. he referenced alha lackey's statement. they're all over the map. we are fighting a narrative and i thin...

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With everybody else about the seriousness of it. >> in terms of the timing, did the russians have enough time during this campaign to recruit a willing spy from the trump campaign during the time it takes time to build that relationship. >> some people are more susceptible than others. it depends on the target. if they go after who they think is going to be hard to corrupt, it could take months or years. others, it doesn't take as much. they know how to play personalities. is it possible that they could have gotten someone unwittingly yushl on, yes, it's possible. >> thank you very much -- nex...