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Passing with the current carveout? >> no. >> that's really something. and the human rights campaign and a whole variety of gay organizations are of that opinion as well? >> exactly. think about it in another context, in terms of the laws we have, the discrimination hiring, based on race or sex, we don't have this religious carveout in that context, why should we say that lesbian and gay people have a lesser status. it's a second class iteration of nondiscrimination. >> thank you very much. >> thank you so much. a little over a year ago, we learned the u.s. government had been spying on ameri...

Change. be it either in terms of the social rights act. >> you don't think enda is worth passing with the current carveout? >> no. >> that's really something. and the human rights campaign and a whole variety of gay organizations are of that opinion as well? >> exactly. think about it in another context, in terms of the laws we have, the discrimination hiring, based on race or sex, we don't have this religious carveout in that context, why should we say that lesbian and gay people have a lesser status. it's a second class iteration of nondiscrimination. >> thank you very much. >> thank you so ...

Social rights act. >> you don't think enda is worth passing with the current carveout? >> no. >> that's really something. and the human rights campaign and a whole variety of gay organizations are of that opinion as well? >> exactly. think about it in another context, in terms of the laws we have, the discrimination hiring, based on race or sex, we don't have this religious carveout in that context, why should we say that lesbian and gay people have a lesser status. it's a second class iteration of nondiscrimination. >> thank you very much. >> thank you so much. a little over a year ago, we ...