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Exhibiting the kind of profound indifference to the racial contours of the jeff session nomination that i wouldnt have expected from somebody as savvy as mitch mcconnell. If they did that on purpose to be racially provocative, to stir you racial currents here, i think thats scary and gross. If they did it accidentally, i think its political malpractice. But i think theyve just turned this issue and Elizabeth Warren and the Jeff Sessions nomination into a much hotter, more hotly contested and sort of scarier thing that its been up until now. It was remarkable. Do you think it changes any votes ...

We think in this case the evidence is clear from president trump's own word and the judges hammered on that as you pointed out later in the oral argument. >> bob ferguson, thanks for being here. >> you run an organization that has handled many such cases, including challenging the war making power in desentention ca. we met many years ago when i worked ccr. there is an argument that this is the heart of presidential power. >> it is the heart of presidential power. think think what's clear particularly when we talk about the discrimination question, i think the attorney general is right in thei...

We think in this case the evidence is clear from president trump's own word and the judges hammered on that as you pointed out later in the oral argument. >> bob ferguson, thanks for being here. >> you run an organization that has handled many such cases, including challenging the war making power in detention cases. we met many years ago when i worked ccr. there is an argument that this is the heart of presidential power. >> it is the heart of presidential power. think think what's clear particularly when we talk about the discrimination question, i think the attorney general is right in thei...

These loans on their own if they get rid of fannie and freddie, even with the new model, it's very sad, ridiculous and can result in discrimination. >> i was going to say even if you put aside the discrimination question or potential for discrimination, in some cases we have to look realistically at what happens when people try to become homeowners. we know categorically across the board for white, black, asian, latino, for anybody, the number one challenge to becoming a homeowner is cash, down payment. that's why government insured loans, like fha, for example, are so attractive nationwide to...