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So i think what we're seeing here is perhaps one of the concluding chapters as i say, these negotiations as to what the ground rules for this interview with the special counsel will be. >> jack, while i have you there, let me ask you this, what discussions did you have with reince priebus in july 2017 about on staining the sessions resignation. with whom did you discus it? talk to me about that. >> i think the special count knows the answer to this question. again, this is one piece and just one piece. of the face that might lend itself to a charge of obstruction. you can not issue a pardon co...

Whether or not this means the president will testify, will not testify. i mean, we have to remember, too, this is not entirely up to the president. if the president at the end of the day refuses to make himself available to answer some of these questions, then we might sb into the issuance of a subpoena. and a period of litigation in the courts, attempting to force the president's testimony. so i think what we're seeing here is perhaps one of the concluding chapters as i say, these negotiations as to what the ground rules for this interview with the special counsel will be. >> jack, while i ha...