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Sure. it is very weird. it is kind of hard to know where it goes. >> martha: do you think democrats will continue to drag their feet? on sessions confirmation and tried to keep her in as long as they can? >> why wouldn't they? she basically said, i am not going to enforce this because i think it is immoral. by the way, it is probably illegal. but her first line of explanation was, this violates some nonspecified moral code. really interesting thing for an acting attorney general to say. it may be right, who knows. it's a little strange. >> martha: i want to ask about this other big story that ...

About all of these e-mails, chris, between the different agencies. how should they be classified? and this discussion pertained to an individual e-mail. it was upgraded to classified and it stayed that way. so, there was never a quid pro quo, but to this point, this request came from an fbi official. and that's what that document confuses, according to both the fbi and the state department. let me just read you the statement from the fbi and we can talk about it a little bit more. the fbi says, having been previously unsuccessful in attempts to speak with a senior state official during the sam...

Gets it all wrong. there was a robust discussion about all of these e-mails, chris, between the different agencies. how should they be classified? and this discussion pertained to an individual e-mail. it was upgraded to classified and it stayed that way. so, there was never a quid pro quo, but to this point, this request came from an fbi official. and that's what that document confuses, according to both the fbi and the state department. let me just read you the statement from the fbi and we can talk about it a little bit more. the fbi says, having been previously unsuccessful in attempts to ...

He had been contacted by patrick kennedy under secretary of state, who had asked his assistance in altering the e-mail's classification in exchange for a quid pro quo. in exchange for marking the e-mail unclassified, state would have reciprocated by allowing the fbi to place more agents in countries where they are presently forbidden. but the fbi and state department both pushed back today. one fbi official told nbc news it was an facebook agent, not kennedy, who first brought up a possibly quid pro quo. for more, i'm joined by msnbc's kristen welker. this is a big one. >> it is a big up with....