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Occur, as pointed out, by spending government money. you can see what has happened in england when everybody's practiced austerity. the currency is going down. and the unemployment is worse. so i don't know if the republicans are really interested in growth if they're not actually saying let's spend money now. this is our biggest challenge. >> stay on the gay marriage issue if i can because i want your reaction to both. is it -- governor walker, is it a civil rights issue? do you sense a sea change in the republican party on this issue? >> well, i think the senator's announcement made the topi...

Occur, as pointed out, by spending government money. you can see what has happened in england when everybody's practiced austerity. the currency is going down. and the unemployment is worse. so i don't know if the republicans are really interested in growth if they're not actually saying let's spend money now. this is our biggest challenge. >> stay on the gay marriage issue if i can because i want your reaction to both. is it -- governor walker, is it a civil rights issue? do you sense a sea change in the republican party on this issue? >> well, i think the senator's announcement made the topi...

Timely, but in our state, i mean, it was in the constitution years ago. they made a similar change in ohio that you talked about. it didn't come up in my 2010 election or 2012. >> you said it's generational. >> i think it is. >> are younger conservatives more apt to see marriage equality as something that is, you know, what they believe, that is basic rather than as a disqualifying issue? >> i think there's no doubt about that. but i think that's all the more reason, when i talk about things, i talk about the economic and fiscal crises in our state and in our country, that's what people want t...

Sight, do you believe they and you say recently you were at headquarters talking to a lot of your friend and they are rooting for her to win confirmation. you are not. tell us why. >> gene kwa has had a very long weird and very dished career. but when it cops to the use tore can i think this is a disqualifying issue. and one of the things in this confirmation hear i saw a very script pted candidate and somebo somebody. >> that answer to even we had a