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Is the most frightening and he identifies here, we look at the debt we have now and we haven't started to add on the future commitments. this passes through an approach underneath the door or around the door like smoke, we have an obligation you can't get out of. you can't obligate because what you're doing is pushing other tos out. creating a monopoly. that's all you have left. when you obligate, that's all you have left. they look and say where do i go now? nothing else is there. we have to keep paying for it, for as long as the foreseeable future would allow. >> how long is that? we have mo...

Is the most frightening and he identifies here, we look at the debt we have now and we haven't started to add on the future commitments. this passes through an approach underneath the door or around the door like smoke, we have an obligation you can't get out of. you can't obligate because what you're doing is pushing other tos out. creating a monopoly. that's all you have left. when you obligate, that's all you have left. they look and say where do i go now? nothing else is there. we have to keep paying for it, for as long as the foreseeable future would allow. >> how long is that? we have mo...