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Joining our conversation, eric swalwell of california. donna is still with us. congressman swalwell i know people like you don't need the evidence because you live it and you have the threats to your safety and your family on how radicalized and extreme the republican party has become. but it's rare their own words can tell the story for us. what do you make of comer's distillation? >> i fear we can win the battle and lose the war. we can have the foul called the it was called on kevin mccarthy when he admitted what they were doing with hillary clinton but lose the game so it's effective. we'r...

Happ happening and an opponent who wants to defeat donald trump not saying, here you go, more evidence he shouldn't be the nominee, and yet that's not the reaction overall from his -- the people running against him. >> exactly, jake. this, to me, is a perfect distillation of opponents who are still to get in. they are clearly -- you went through the entire range of responses there. they are clearly as a field of opponents still trying to figure out how to navigate trump, how to take him on, and i don't think there is a clear agreed upon answer inside the republican party, inside even the group...

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But that guy? he triggered the [bleep] out of me. >> it was so unhealthy, the hate i felt. it's totally bad for you to feel that way. so said tucker carlson. joining us now are eddie glaad, chair of the department of african american studies at princeton university, and jamele -- co-host of the unclear and present danger podcast. thank you both for joining me tonight. professor, how do you square what carlson and fox news have done to america but is very clear acknowledgment that hate is cancerous? what it's done to his body? >> it's almost a kind of distillation of the work that mobs do and a...

Hate i felt. it's totally bad for you to feel that way. so said tucker carlson. joining us now are eddie --, chair of the department of african american studies at princeton university, and jamelle bouin, co-host of the unclear and present danger podcast. thank you both for joining me tonight. professor, how do you square what carlson and fox news have done to america with his very clear acknowledgment that hate is cancerous? when it comes to himself and his own body? >> it's almost a kind of distillation of the work that mobs do in attacking scapegoats. imagine the people who participate in a...