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Concerned about the legal implications of such a trip. and he agreed with the secret service that it shouldn't happen. miss hutchinson, did you have any conversations with pat about his concerns about the president going to the capitol on january 6th? >> on january 3rd, pat had approached me knowing that mark had raised the prospect of going to the capitol on january 6th. we had a brief private conversation where he said to me make sure it does not happen, legally a terrible idea, we have serious legal concerns if we go to the capitol that day and he urged me to continue to relay that to mr. m...

Tv, chief? the tv was small, and you could see it but i didn't know if he was really paying attention. watching tv, chief? yeah. rioters are getting really close, have you talked to the president? >> no, he wants to be alone right now, still looking at his phone. so i start to get frustrated because i sort of felt like i was watching -- this is not a great comparison, but a bad car accident about to happen where you can't stop it but you want to be able to do something. and i remember thinking in that moment mark needs to snap out of this and i don't know how to snap him out of this, he needs ...

Michael flynn regarding what would play out the next day. miss hutchinson, is it your understanding the president asked mark me does to speak with roger stone and general flynn on january 5th? >> that's correct, that is my understanding. >> and miss hutchinson, is it your understanding meadows called mr. stone on the 5th? >> i understand mr. meadows completed a call to mr. stone and general flynn the evening of the 5th. >> do you know what they talked about that evening? >> i'm not sure. >> is it your understanding mr. giuliani, mr. eastman and others had set up what is called "a war room" at ...

Propped open and said something, mark is on his phone, i remember glancing in, he's on his phone and i remember pat saying to him something to the effect of the rioters have gotten to the capitol, mark, we need to go down and see the president now. and mark looked up and said he doesn't want to do anything, pat. and pat said something to the effect of and very clearly said, something to the effect of mark, something needs to be done or people are going to die and the blood is going to be on your f-ing hands, this is out of control, i'm going down there. and mark stood up from his couch, with h...

At our later hearings. we have evidence of many others, imploring donald trump and mark meadows to take action. here is some of that evidence, text messages sent to mark meadows during the attack. text message at 2:32 from laura ingram. hey mark, the president needs to tell people in the capitol to go home. the next message, this is hurting all of us, and then he's destroying his legacy, and playing into every stereotype. we lose all credibility against the b.l.m. antifa crowd if things go south. the president's son, don, jr., also urgently contacted mark meadows at 2:53 he wrote he's got to c...