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Job, which is what he has claimed in the past, claiming that, you know, he had a beautiful conversation. there was nothing wrong with it, even though we can read with our own eyes the rough transcript that the white house itself released, and the quid pro quo is right there. the wrongdoing is right there in those ten little words. i would like you to do us a favor, though -- those words with kevin mccarthy, the minority leader of the house apparently was not familiar with. he didn't actually read the transcript. if you don't read the transcript, it's easy to conclude the president didn't do an...

Unison on. and in the end, look, donald trump's not going to shut down the government. i just don't believe that's going to happen. so it's really just facial utterance on his point again. >> what is he doing? he appears to make a deal with mitch mcconnell and paul ryan and then he blows it up. is this just all donald trump's distraction machine. having us not pay attention to robert mueller and michael cohen. what's he doing? >> well, i think it's the sort of classic trump negotiating tactics. which is that he's going to sort of tee something over here in the form of a government shutdown. an...

Delegitima delegitimating every chance he gets. i think it's interesting the recent addition of giuliani to the team. there's been a lot of questions of is giuliani muddling things, making a mess, contradicting himself? it's all great because giuliani is a distraction machine in himself. he's a headline grabber, he's got all of our attention. any time we let up from listening to trump, giuliani's on stage. i think that's exactly what purpose he's serving. he's also the hero of 9/11 so it's all aimed at that base of voters that elected trump in 2016 and that he's looking to to reelect him in 20...