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This white house. what we've seen in the past is what he's done is something damaging or striking or staggering or shocking to deflect. look at these investigations. >> and by the way, mika, as you're looking at those investigations, the one he fears the most into the trump organization from new york state because there is no pardoning power there. that was the trigger to all of this. that is what he fears the most, that the trump organization, now under investigation, can bring out indictments of himself and his children, indictments that he has no power to pardon. >> so my question to susan ...

Morning. attorney general sessions has taken a weak position on hillary clinton crimes, where -- what do you make of the tactic and the underlying premise of hillary clinton? >> look, i think it's absurd, frankly. hillary clinton. el ought to focus on his own problems and the problems that we have here at home. on the affordable care act, jobs, infrastructure, all the things he talked about. he continues to do this distraction mode of his because he's under siege. jeff sessions did the right thing in recusing himself. he had been involved with discussions with the russians. i think he did the ...

Investigation. that's been verified by director comey. now it's time to start moving on and getting to the business of helping the american people whose healthcare is failing, who want takes reform. with -- we have to get out of this distraction mode. >> neil: and lindsay graham said would former counsel would allow an fbi director testify if he was making an obstruction case. i think you agree. so let me step back and get your sense of the president, where h investigation could be wrapped up by labor day. the behavior might have been inappropriate, illegal, impeachable. then what? do you worr...

And now he's learning that nafta, getting rid of it would be a shock to the system as he said. so, i think what we're seeing is a guy who is learning as he goes along and who is hearing from a lot of people. that being said, i always come to the table that a lot of what donald trump does is a distraction mode, is a distraction tactic for, you know, a bad press date. he's also very good at that. >> i guess you can look at it charitably, he's somebody who listens to other people and can alter his view, or he should have known that while he was running. >> harry true man was a neophyte, too, but ...

Days healthcare is complicated, nato is not obsolete and now he's learning that nafta, getting rid of it would be a shock to the system, as he says. i think what we're seeing is a guy who is learning as he goes along and who is hearing from a lot of people. that being said i always come to the table a lot of what donald trump does is a distraction mode, is a distraction tactic for a bad press day. he's also very good at that. >> you can either look at it chartbly as somebody who listens to other people and can alter his view or should have known that while he was running. >> harry truman was a...