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Republicans of the george w. bush years, spin spin spin. >> i'll tell you, what newt is doing is what the left wing of the democratic party is doing in that district up in new york, which is trashing paul ryan as a radical, as you said, joe, it's not simply saying ryan's got a courageous proposal, i'm taking a look at it. it's trashing it. this is the position of the democratic party and barack obama right now politically, they will take into the campaign of 2012, hammering ryan as a radical and newt gingrich has dealt them aces. >> it was newt night 1974 and '76, when he ran as a rockefeller ...

Bart stupak, who would have easily sailed to re-election this year, t.j., clearly was feeling pressure on both sides of the spectrum. he had the very hard conservatives that were after him and the very hard liberals that were after him. >> you said the pressure there to vote one way when it came to that health care and the criticism from both sides after he voted the way he did. what about the pressure he got from nancy pelosi or maybe even president obama to stick at the job? they don't want another seat that's possibly on the line. >> you know something, i was talking to political op pertivi...