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that just barely gained control. if you look at the number of closed societies in virginia and skpra so and oh states. this is not a democratic caucus that can afford to be divided. i'm just wondering when does nancy pelosi, who i'll just say i love nancy. i have had great respect for her for years, but i will tell you that every time newt gingrich said something negative about us, we made sure we would hit pack as hard or even harder in the press and on the floor. so she sads some demeaning things to these four members. the four members have said many things to pelosi. when to they day sown and say we can all help're other. let's start working together. >> alexandria ocasio-cortez made
an interesting comment in an interview last week. she said a lot of this is premised on the idea that i have a relationship with nancy pelosi at all. she hasn't talked to her since the winter time. and i think that tellhouse a lot about how this rep has been mayed out. i think thr some risks here for pelosi. so far it's been this uneasy where they have watched some messaging victories. they have seen her stride out of the white house and have her be a hero for the same liberal base that sent them to washington. but these comments are getting very dismissive. pelosi simply looks at the world in a completely different way. and i think my question about this going forward is the same one that you had just then about newt gingrich, which is we're living in a different type of media environment and world.
democrat in the room yesterday said pelosi's remarks were aimed at alexandria ocasio-cortez's chief of staff, who attackeds pelosi and compared democrats to segregationists in a tweet over the weekend. he tweeted, they certainly seem hellen bent to do skblak brown people did to what was done in the '40s. the tweet was later deleted. there are some parallels to your experience in congress and newt gingri gingrich. >> all that is new is all that is old is new. . you could go back and look at things that were written about a group of us in 1995 and 1996 who were constantly after newt gingri
gingrich. we didn't like his negotiations with bill clinton and we were constantly complaining. and what it required, we department have twitter, but we had role call. we tell them things that would show up in the paper the next morning. and let me tell you something. having a big headline about unrest inside your caucus was far more frightening than a tweet. what it required, i give credit to this day, newt never took the attacks personally. we'd fight and he'd say, okay, let's figure that out and colt to a truce and that lasted for about four years. but it was managed in some time. and we had to do that because we didn't have a huge majority. kasie hunt, same thing here. it seems for a democratic party
where you come to make a reputation. i always thought the model of that gene mccarthy saying was president george bush. >> he loved being in the people's house, he loved it in houston. you heard the story coming from the gym -- >> yes. and the house was a more college yal body. >> until newt came along. >> if he had been elected as senate, he might never have been president or vice president. so he may have been lucky to have avoided that office. >> i knew he stuck to his pals, he was skull and bones from ohio, another guy, a democrat he was close to, he also stuck with ross when he got in trouble -- >> i wouldn't be surprised at all. and allen simpson, close as well. >> he was a genuine friend. let's bring in george herbert walker bush on his relationship with president clinton, the man
>> john sununu former chief of staff for president bush, former governor, father of a governor. i hope we have you on the show a number of times, as "hardball" goes up to cover -- it's hard to believe the new hampshire primary is coming. >> let's go to jonathan alter right now. this is interesting because it's a long time and time salves many wounds. that was a serious wound with him and the right wing. >> absolutely. you can argue that cost him reelection. you have to have a united party behind you in order to get re-elected. and, you know, pat buchanan is going after him, doing pretty well -- >> sure. >> -- in new hampshire. >> 37%. >> he's getting hit my newt gingri gingrich. so he got hammered. part of it was his own making because what he called voodoo economics, then under reagan
these bigger jobs, donald trump didn't need them in that. two out of those three, newt gingri gingrich, chris christie and rudy giuliani may have had problems getting confirmed. particularly when you have the stress of a transition and pressures on transition, to make sure people you put up will be confirmed, that probably left them cancelled out. >> donald trump does care so much about stature, and as you were saying, david, how people around him make him look, can you think of anyone that garners more respect than the ceo of exxon mobil, these titans of industry, and generals who literally have medals on their chests. >> also, they're exact letter what he said he wanted to put in place when he was running, he said, we need people who understand business, we need people who aren't of washington. the first three names are a depart sure from that profile.
during the campaign and the transition. this is driven by him. >> you think these early picks -- these gentlemen were surprised because they supported him very early on and they were not picked? we thought you were loyal? >> well, you know, it's impossible for me to get inside newt gingrich's head and figure that out much based on their public comments. newt gingrich has gone out there, and gone off message from what you would expect from an inside adviser, there may are a little bit of bitterness there. you look at the way he reacted to mitt romney being picked as secretary of state, someone who vehemently opposed donald trump during the election. you got the sense that newt gingrich, that didn't sit well with him, because he had been so loyal. and what was he getting out of that. >> you think this is about avoiding confirmation trouble? >> it's the wants and the needs didn't necessarily match. they may have wanted some of
and you can't strip someone of their citizenship under the 14th amendment. you're born here, you say here. anyway, congressman frank, i have to ask you about something your former colleague newt gingrich said the other day. he said what trump does, if the media will chase a rabbit, i'll pick the rabbit. and i'll come up with something, he'll chase it. this is an sx annual spell perhaps. your thoughts. >> absolutely. i disagree that he just got up in the more than and said it. let's not under estimate this man's screwed accepts. he has a great abilitythan and . let's not under estimate this man's screwed accepts. he has a great ability to find out what will anger people. he made the preposterous claim that there was voter fraud. he understands that when he proposes a controversial thing, the fact is that he is by far the most minority president we've ever had. so this is i think part of a calculated strategy.
welcome back. donald trump continues to deliberate over his choice for secretary of state and tonight he's having dinner with mitt romney who is viewed as a top contender alongside rudy giuliani. trump also met with senator bob corker and david petraeus yesterday. while the candidates each have their own draw backs, there is continued backlash against trump allies among them rather against mitt romney . and here's what newt gingrich had to say last night. >> it would be a huge mistake to betray that base on behalf of somebody who this is not a team of rivals. there was nobody in lincoln's cabinet who was a bitter opponent through the general election. so this is a totally phony comparison. and i think it will be a significant mistake. >> however as the "washington