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College and got a nice college degree. >> how did you do that without a high school diploma? >> through community college. i went to community college as an adult. >> get your ged? >> no, i just tested into math and english good got my lower division courses and transferred to ucla. >> i did not graduate from college. >> you account have to because you knew your path to sees was laid before you -- to success was laid before you and all you had to dos fight the great shiny egg. >> i thought i just ran out of money. it could have worked. it would be nice to have it but not nice enough to go back...

Budget. can you accept the president's budget? his recommendation for some of these cuts that he has in it, including to pell grants? >> well, i can accept them, but i'm not happy with them. i don't want to pretend that i'm happy with them. i think the year-round pell grant is essential to low-income students who are trying to get their lower division courses out of the way at community colleges as rapidly as they can. that's unfortunate. but there's nothing compared to the cuts that are being made on the house floor that were made last night and again today, which you really see as a tearing ...