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You re live with bbc news. in an exclusive interview, a fugitive russian air force pilot has told the bbc that many serving in the russian military are sceptical about the war in ukraine. dmitry mishov escaped from russia to lithuania, on foot across the border. he has now handed himself to lithuanian authorities, hoping to get political asylum. during the course of the war he flew helicopters not in ukraine, but in russia and belarus. translation: i am mishov, dmitry. - rank, lieutenant. my position was military helicopter pilot, assistant commander later i became an attack helicopter navigator. i m a military officer, my duty is to protect my country from aggression. i don t have to become an accomplice in a crime. if we compare this to the war ....
brian: if you attack at the heart of the country, strike up that nationalism and might get people to sign up for this war? right, i mean, it might appear as a pretty extreme act of desperation on the kremlin s part. what vladimir putin wants is to robert up security to pro-advise a pretext to limit the number of folks who might be out on the street celebrating the victory day parade. he doesn t want mothers of russian soldiers dead soldiers protesting in the streets. he wants a pretext if russia does lose a lot of territory as secretary blinken said that might actually happen yesterday, during ukraine s counteroffensive. putin wants to blame the united states and ukraine. remember, that just this morning russian press spokesman dmitry said that that drone was launched by ukraine on orders of the united states. russia is setting this up as a war against not just ukraine but nato and the united states in particular. brian: here is what blinken ourselves said yesterday. ....