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I think we know across the board is that you can't fight donald trump down in the gutter because in my opinion, nobody is dirtier than him. he is willing to go lower than anybody has ever -- lower than anybody thought you could go. so because of that, you always have to elevate the conversation when dealing with him. and i think there have been a number of instances, most prominently, the dna debacle, if you will, with senator elizabeth warren, where you have to elevate the conversation because if you try to fight donald trump where he is, you won't win. so i think that's something many candid...

Circumstance. the notion that he is on a street corner, 2:00 in the morning, second coldest night of the year and there's suddenly two men that appear and assault him on the street, particularly in chicago, in that particular area in chicago, two trump supporters. >> it also seemed to have a number of beats to it that seemed like if you were writing it as a story. like an anti-trump statement. an anti-gay statement. a racist statement, a news. >> but i think part of the problem is a lot of stuff has been floated that is dem demonstrably not true. the first thing people say is why would he do t...

And i think there have been a number of instances, most prominently, the dna debacle, if you will, with senator elizabeth warren, where you have to elevate the conversation because if you try to fight donald trump where he is, you won't win. so i think that's something many candidates and potential candidates have learn and have seen. and i think that will be a telling thing that they'll expand upon going forward. >> kirsten, you heard the argument the democratic party can't afford to go too far left. it alienates the moderates. if they go too far to the center, it alienates the liberals. who ...

Entirely positive. it goes back to when he was in charge of the field office and later on when he went to the headquaters and ultimately as the deputy director. he and i appeared together as witnesses in the seemingly endless hearings about benghazi and i found him to be credible, professional, dedicated, and level headed and honest. >> and lastly, a friend of the president's who was there this weekend is hearing there's a general disappointment with the president with dan coates and maybe there needs to be a change of leadership there. what kind of an impact would that have if coates were to,...

>> could there be other documents out there with you self identifying as native american? >> all i know is that during this time period this is consistent with what i did because it was based on my understanding from my family's stories. family stories are not the same as tribal citizenship. >> dagen: senator elizabeth warren's ancestry problems could just be getting started. she is not dismissing the possibility that there may be more documents out there like this one from 1986 where she identifies herself as a "american indian." warren has apologized for that but the hits keep on coming. the...