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Information. the way that it's laid out in this indictment, where it shows they weren't just stealing the information, they were very strategically, and in some cases apparently coordinating with folks here on the ground on when to release it. and i think there was a lack of recognition of what that could look like. but this was really the biggest political theft since watergate, and that was missing at the very beginning. the other thing that i think was missing that was incredible in the indictment is the note that it said that they were in the dnc systems until october of 2016. >> right. >>...

Operation. that part really shouldn't be in doubt for us. how it influence influenced the election, all of the politics even everyone obama by the way for trying to make this all political, i think is terrible for the collection efforts of the united states intelligence community. >> rod, you ran the national cyber security center. all these separate pieces to you, do they add up? does the picture that's starting to come together make sense? >> look, clearly the russians have world class trade craft in hacking and cyber security. they clearly could have gotten to the dnc systems, many others. ...

The responses in the white house as recently as a few weeks ago and what happened in between is that at the beginning there were many missteps. the dnc underreacted. didn't tell its top leadership or the young cyber security people who heard this warning from the fbi that they didn't believe fully at the beginning. didn't tell anybody senior at the dnc until april of this year. and that is the period of time that allowed the russian hackers to actually go wild, not only inside the dnc systems but then to move on and attack mr. podesta's private gmail account. so there was lost time. the fbi di...