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Potential blueprints, the construction, things like that. that's something he demanded to sign daca is it important enough to you to, to give him that? >> we're not going to do it. we're not going to equate daca to, to a wall. if you want to talk about strong border security, cameras, sensors, given the border patrol enough equipment, having the right number of border patrol, we can do that. i believe in strong border security, but, look. bottom line is this, sir. if you look at the number of people that are here. the 11 million or 12 million undocumented aliens we have, 40% of them, 40% of th...

This. a democrat rooting for mr. trump to make a deal and conservative radio talk show host who's not so excited. let me kick things off first with democratic congressman henry convey henry cuellar. nice to see you. >> thank you so much. >> let me start with, to have you give the interpretation. i've been asked this question umpteen times just today. which is -- is there a deal on daca? does the border security enhancements that president trump says he's going to get with daca include the wall or not? what is your understanding of what deal or potential deal has been struck or is about to be s...

Why is anyone surprised he's being a little unconventional in the way he's handling it here? also it could end up being the best discipline the republicans in congress have ever had. if they realize he'll go to the democrats and round up his numbers, big incentive for the freedom caucus and house moderates to come to accommodation. see what happens. >> that's interesting. what do you say? >> everybody is right. >> what do you think? >> i think that i -- i go back to this interview that happened on the hill this week we reported on in the "new york times," and that person said that donald trump...

That wall totally ineffective. we have to find a smarter way of securing the border. let's not look backwards to the 14th century solution. let's look at what's worked to secure borders, and i think technology and a mixture of personnel would be the right way of securing the border. >> all right. congressman, leave it there. thanks for coming on and sharing your views. good to talk to you. >> thank you so much. we have seen some fierce blowback against president trump's overtures to democrats specific on this issue of daca from conservative talk radio. joined by a nationally sindt ka syndica...

Walk me through where you are on daca. >> what i think is happening here, is the president beginning with his campaign, chuck, cynically attempted to play on people's angst and passions for his own political mazenations. and didn't truly understand what's driving people in between los angeles and the beltway and why they're concerned. i wrote about this today for "usa today." the average daca recipient makes about $36,000 a year, if employed. 51% of working americans don't make that much money a year. their wages stagnated observer over 20 years. i'm a product of a single mom. one of my employ...