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When you look at the numbers there as you have in previous campaigns, do gingrich and santorum split the conservative vote and make a pathway for romney there? >> well, i think if you look at the polls right now and you look at how romney's performed in the other southern states, it's tough to see how he comes out on top in these southern states. i think even with the divided conservative vote, you're going to see either santorum or gingrich win in the states. i think it's important for newt gingrich to be able to rack up some victories if he's going to keep going in the process. >> all right,...

Carolina is as conservative as a republican in new hampshire, you are right. the first slide you showed to me seems like the most important. that is, if you care first and foremost about electability you are overwhelmingly voting for mitt romney. that is his whole play here. electabili electability. things are over with. what i think you'll see is that mitt romney has a floor of 28% in south carolina and a ceiling of 35% in south carolina. that is the john mccain vote. mccain got 33 in south carolina in 2008. and the issue is, and it's not complicated, it happened in '08, the socially conserva...