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Talking about, do you?" isaid, "no." he said, "i want you to bring your show to new york "and i want to produce it." and i said, "wait, wait a minute, are you sure? "because, you know, i'm not always good, "you saw me on a good night." i said, "i'm not sure." he said, "well, think about it, think about it." and i said, "what if i'm terrible?" he said, "have you been terrible before?" isaid, "oh, yeah, many times." he said, "then you'll be terrible again. "here are the dates, i would like to do this." and i said, "ok," and hung up, called my mother and said, "i think mike nicholsjust invited me...

And she had already sent it all to steven, because alice walker lived in berkeley and she had seen my show. she'd come to see the show? she'd come and seen my show. but you had no idea. no! you know, because you don't really meet the audience necessarily, unless they come and say, "hello, i am so—and—so." so, you arrive at steven spielberg's private theatre, expecting just to entertain him. did you realise that this was an audition? no, nor did i realise he had other people sitting in the audience at the same time, you know? and he didn't tell me, which i'm ever gratefulfor, but i'm standi...

He would say, i'd be onstage and i'd be doing it, and you'd hear... deep sigh and i'd say, "are you 0k?" he said, "yes, i'm fine." "is there an end to this story or are you just talking?" and i said, "well, no, there is an end." he said, "good, because i heard it about seven minutes ago. "and you're not listening to yourself." and i thought, "oh, this is an adult, 0k. "no more fooling around, this is what it is. "this is how you do it." so he helped refine the show... and me! ..and to hone it. and also, just to be clear, what you were doing with the show, �*cos it's a series of characters. y...

Yes, i went there for a guy. and ijust happened to fall into... ..all the folks at the san diego rep. sure. he worked with them. and later, in 1984, you met the oscar—winning director mike nichols, who made the graduate and who's afraid of virginia woolf? and this is the next significant moment that we're going to discuss. how did you meet him? i was invited to do a series of monologues, and the first night, there were maybe four people in the audience, because nobody knew who i was, and then someone wrote a wonderful review about me in the new york times... right. ..which shocked me. but it...

And then i can sort of go wherever i need to go. and so for me, my interest in learning was lit by her saying, "you can'tjust do nothing." how did it inspire you? and what...? it inspired me to ask questions, to say, "i don't understand, "can you help me understand?" 0r, "what's the most interesting thing i need to know about this?" and, you know, in the �*60s, you could do stuff like that. things were free. public lectures? public lectures on all kinds of crazy stuff. so you were mixing with adults a lot during the daytime when, ordinarily, you would be at school. some. you were later known...