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Damage from these documents being held, classified documents held at mar-a-lago. we can't do that if we don't have access to the documents. so they're saying, stay that one part of it, and then we can decide what we're going to do with the 11th circuit in a, in a delayed fashion. but that's the more immediate question. what are they going to do and what is the judge going to do? in effect asking the judge for a do-over. what i said before, never mind. we're going to change it. >> a good point what kind of the position it puts the judge in with this. the slower this moves, though, chris. the lo...

Of the republicans that stood up against those that would want to overturn it. so i think you're seeing a unity speech here that is being mischaracterized because the focus is on this idea of mag baa republicans. the fact is, donald trump does have dominance over the republican party, and his primary platform is that the election was illegitimate. you have to confront that, and that's what joe biden did. howard: well, in his rally last might donald trump called joe biden an enemy of the state. so you've got each side accusing the other. i didn't see people in the mainstream media question the ...

Shah -- covering russiagate. i think their limited time is best spent rebutting that, and that's how we get into these cycles where it might seem like deflection, but it's the actually a rebuttal of what's coming out of the the legacy media, because they're doing the same thing without having learned some of those important lessons. can it become deflection? absolutely. i also think a lot of it is rebutting really bad behavior we're seeing again. howard: right. of course, if both sides are talking about trump, then donald trump's probably happy about that. but at the same time, it doesn't help...

Trump's desks. what were they doing in the desk? if. howard: this came one day after trump posted 60 times to truth social, some reposts inspired by qanon saying the the fbi's efforts to suppress the hunter biden laptop story as russian disinformation means he should be immediately returned to the white house or granted a do-over election. >> the more worried or panicked donald trump is, the more insane his public pronouncements become. >> it is as if there's some universal deity who can just put him back in the white house. it does not exist under our constitutional system. howard: joining us...

That is just bs. >> don, it is kind of like the first topic we are talking about. that they failed and the judge gave them a do-over. but how many doers do you get when you look at your timeline. when you look at the pattern here. we look at all of cnn's reporting. everything that has become public. you really get two of the government has written about it and some of these papers. that is the real fault withholding national defence information and the pattern of concealment. and that gets prosecutors and judges and juries pretty exercised. so i think it is that pattern that creates such crimi...