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former president. most trump supporters don't trust what he calls fake news, but now if we're reporting facts that while we can debate the politics or particulars can't be spun away. it's a fact that trump seized to own one development this week to demand that he be reinstated as president or granted a new election even though both are impossible. and the next day while release leasing this photo, the justice department accused trump of likely concealing and moving classified documents, some of them top secret, in an attempt to obstruct the probe. last night trump called those involv...

Shah -- covering russiagate. i think their limited time is best spent rebutting that, and that's how we get into these cycles where it might seem like deflection, but it's the actually a rebuttal of what's coming out of the the legacy media, because they're doing the same thing without having learned some of those important lessons. can it become deflection? absolutely. i also think a lot of it is rebutting really bad behavior we're seeing again. howard: right. of course, if both sides are talking about trump, then donald trump's probably happy about that. but at the same time, it doesn't help...