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Have support -- >> right. >> maybe he didn't like nancy pelosi getting all the attention, dominating the news cycle. maybe he just relishes the fight. what do you think? >> you know, i think that part of it, chris, is this is a president who likes to win, and who likes to be able to declare political victory, and right now, democrats and speaker pelosi are not going to let that happen, right? making this move really in the coming hours from now, to reopen the government and then try to put the ball in republicans' court. i spoke with one senior white house official over the last 18 hours or so...

Strategist steve bannon. the two are on opposite sides of a senate battle in the state of alabama. bannon infuriating the republican establishment. bannon is turning into a rallying point for the alt-right adding that half of what he does is damage. his former client and friend. with me now from washington, mike rounds of south dakota. it's great to have you with us on this sunday evening. i do want to talk to you about steve bannon, clearly it seems that his desire to go to war with republicans this congress, if he thinks they don't support the president -- i'm curious to get your thoughts if...

>> speaking of -- >> main stream. >> -- of what's happened here in the immigration -- >> so much for ted cruz. >> one of the thing wes have to remind people, people that do support donald trump are angry about politics in general in washington. they know trump is kind of a clown. >> they're voicing something that's very important. >> that's right. we can't ignore that aspect of it. when we come back, though i want to take a closer look at donald trump's claims about illegal immigrants. we do this in a muchor thoughtful way, our immigrants pouring over the border bringing drugs and crime with a...

Denounce one group -- >> ted cruz defended him. >> speaking of -- >> main stream. >> -- of what's happened here in the immigration -- >> so much for ted cruz. >> one of the thing wes have to remind people, people that do support donald trump are angry about politics in general in washington. they know trump is kind of a clown. >> they're voicing something that's very important. >> that's right. we can't ignore that aspect of it. when we come back, though i want to take a closer look at donald trump's claims about illegal immigrants. we do this in a much more thoughtful way, our immigrants pour...

Matters -- >> danielle, i interrupted you. >> i thought you were being a little unfair to republicans. i think everybody is at the beginning stages of this process. it started too early. it's starting earlier and earlier every year. there's more and more time for clowns, ridiculous behavior. and i think the republicans haven't found their ground yet. i think that's one of the reasons -- >> well -- >> no, no, no, no. i don't think anyone in the republican parties who thinks calling -- >> hispanics are rapists. he said -- >> i don't think there's anybody against -- anybody in the main stream of ...