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Warm waters, you can exercise. he creates an institution for other polio patients. while he's there, he calls himself doc roosevelt. he teaches them, it's not just exercising, you have to get joy in life again. you have to have fun. you have to feel like i do. you can see my legs, you can see what they look like. and they played games in the pool, they have dances in their wheelchairs at night. and they learn to love life again. and then when you think about it, he becomes president when the country is paralyzed by an economic depression and that confidence, that optimism and the empathy. he l...

He creates an institution for other polio patients. while he's there, he calls himself doc roosevelt. he teaches them, it's not just exercising, you have to get joy in life again. you have to have fun. you have to feel like i do. you can see my legs, you can see what they look like. and they played games in the pool, they have dances in their wheelchairs at night. and they learn to love life again. and then when you think about it, he becomes president when the country is paralyzed by an economic depression and that confidence, that optimism and the empathy. he learned to feel a connection to ...

Lincoln, both roosevelts and lyndon johnson. doris, i want to talk about the unusual notion of presidential vulnerability and empathy, something you write about regarding a place we both been, warm springs, georgia, and fdr. >> and there's no question that the path to the leadership that fdr exhibited in the presidency was through warm springs. he's gotten polio, obviously. he finds out there's this place where if you can swim in the warm waters, you can exercise. he creates an institution for other polio patients. while he's there, he calls himself doc roosevelt. he teaches them, it's not jus...