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He is the biggest is salesman in terms of that tax plan. he'll pressure these red state democrats. he's already been doing this but the dinner is -- it's also a sign he wants to reach across the aisle. he knows he may not be able to get this done with the freedom caucus, some of the very conservative republican -- yes, he does need democrat votes. he also needs republicans to get on board. >> mitch mcconnell says the deal already made with trump won't allow them to use the debt ceiling as a negotiating device for things like dock doca as some people thought. let me play that for you. >> i thin...

All mean for the year-end deal making? >> that's a very good question. i will say i was at the breakfast with him. one thing that's interesting on that, on doca, the president has privately approached chuck schumer to say he is willing to trade protections for dreamers for something on the board rder. the actual border wall is a nonstarter for democrats as they've made publicly clear. especially as you listen to mark schwartz this morning, some wiggle room. there's a difference between funding the wall and funding border security, which is slightly different. it could mean more agents or diffe...