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Maybe connect with the christian base and say let's not worry about that, you know, just like catholics don't particularly read the bible as much. >> they don't want to talk about go to the doctrine stuff, which nobody wants to -- people don't like to have that discussion. >> people consider themself religious and spiritual but not doctrinal. >> just had this discussion with governor sununu, the whole hand wringing being on, romney be romney, app romney joking, unzip the real romney what -- this seemed like a moment yes said i want to talk about my faith and i -- i have something in my head th...

Talking about. what did you say? >> i said it is the president of the united states campaigning on envy and greed and division by class and race and religion. how so? tell me. >> you just had the segment on a few moments ago with anthony dolan the head of the catholic church in new york city and the big battle going on between h him and the administration over the contraceptive business. a meeting a few days ago at the white house and the white house minuteons were saying you ought to list tonight liberal catholics and not all this doctrine stuff coming out of the vatican. if romney wants to u...