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Wants, but they've got him dead to right on intent, on stealing the documents. just talk about the history, if you will, of tapes taking politicians down. >> i mean, absolutely. when you think about what may happen to president trump, former president trump, tapes will be, if it is, the ending of it. not only the georgia case, not only this document case, but even in the e. jean carroll case, the "access hollywood" cape was shown to the jury. he was on tape saying, "she's not my type," and then there is a picture, and he thinks it's his former wife. then, of course, you have the mother of all ...

Legal analysts. and dean whittler, also the dean whittler show on sirius xm, an msnbc daily columnist. thank you all from joining me. let me start with you, another details on the bombshell washington post reporting on jack smith's document case. according to the post sources, prosecutors have gathered evidence indicating that trump, at times, kept classified documents in his office in a place where there were visible, even sometimes showing them to others. bob, is this the smoking gun that jack smith needs to try to charge trump under the espionage act? >> that development would be a really t...

Yay! new dove body wash for skin conditions. the document case in mar-a-lago. i think it's a serious potential case i think they probably have good evidence there i think it depends on how sensitive the documents were, but also what evidence they have of obstruction and games playing by the president the president, unfortunately, has a pension for engaging in reckless and self-destructive behavior that brings these kinds of things on him this stuff is going to drag out through '24. it is going to stymie and disrupt the whole republican primary process. i think part of -- as i said, i think par...

>> sound familiar? [laughter] >> saturday night live jabbing donald trump are having messiah complex after a worl wind weak legal drama involvin the former president now just today, trump' attorney general has advice fo his former boss. the long list of indictments i new york city not his bigges threat >> i would be most concerned about the document case at mar-a-lago the government is investigatin the extent to which games were played and there was obstruction in keeping the documents from them. i think that's a serious potential case i think they probably have som very good evidence there >>...

Cannot take the stand. >> in any case ever? >> and any of these cases, every prosecutor, the plant is in the e. jean carroll case, letitia james, all of th people, and whether you are in the government, whether your plaintive suing him, the bes possible thing that coul happen to your case is him taking the stand that's not going to happen for the same reason that is in the special counsel, special counsel mueller, because there's so many specia counsel's, where he said, oh i'm happy to testify, of cours i'm going to go in that didn't happen because, you know what, hi defense counsel were, like...