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>> yeah, i agree. what they're doing here is absolutely nailing it down tight. that's what they need to do. when you present to a jury, you have to prove it beyond a reasonable doubt. yes, we've got evidence that there's obstruction here, and i'll note on the obstruction thing. there's so much buzz around the pence and biden documents and their residences or offices and what is that impact going to be on smith and potential prosecution for possessing or mishandling documents, but we done know, but what we do know is this. as you've just pointed out at least twice now, the obstruction part of t...

Looking at these document case says, both the biden and trump, and two things, the intent where the documents were taken, and the subject and how they reacted once they learned that the documents were in their home. we don't have any information about the first -- either trump or biden at this point. we don't know if it was intentional. at the second, we do know there are very strong differences between biden and trump. for biden, you know it's kind of amazing. you don't need a search warrant but a president is actually willing to invite investigators inside their home. that contest with trump...

Saying that somebody dug in one flew over the cuckoo's nest. that is what it is. that is not a bar, i don't think marjorie taylor's greens bar for sanity is very high. we >> know, no, but there was a story [laughter] in politico. yeah this was about the extremists on the oversight committee, and here is this quote. and i read it to ian sam's in the last block. privately, the presidents aides sent text to one another with digital high fives and likened their apparent look to drawing an inside straight. one white house ally called a political gift. and so, matthew, my concern in reading that is ...

♪ ♪ mark: welcome back america, we're here with jim trust y . president trump's l lawyer on the document case. >> we have no idea how the biden documents got to the different locations. we don't have any information that leads up to november 2 of what cause the investigations to look for documents. anything about chain of cocustody. >> it is all evidence of double standard. think about the security associated with mar-a-lago. it is kind of a fo fort

♪ ♪ america, we're here with jim trust y . president trump's lor lawyer on the document case. >> we have no idea how the biden documents got to the different locations. we don't have any information that leads up to november 2 of what cause the investigations to look for documents. anything about chain of coascustody. >> it is all evidence of double standard. think about the security associated with mar-a-lago. it is kind of a fort fort