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Deems fair. democrats want to see more commitments from the white house on witnesses, on document production, and so you're seeing this whole chess game play out with not just leader versus leader but lawmaker versus lawmaker. >> to the point that bob is making here, we had that graphic on screen, you need 51 votes in a senate impeachment trial to get through any procedural thing, so topics like whether to call witnesses et cetera, you need 67 votes to convict. democrats would need at least 20 republicans to get on board to remove and convictim the president. do you think these murkowski comme...

Why was the subpoena, if the republicans saying we're not hearing who we need to hear, on the democratic side, this is going to be a very essential decision coming down from the federal courts. which, if you've been subpoenaed, who should i listen to, the white house or the house of representatives? why was it withdrawn? >> actually, i think that's where we see the most hypocrisy in the narrative pushed forward by the president, by the white house, and by the republicans, that witnesses haven't testified that should testify, yet simultaneously, the president is preventing those witnesses from ...

Document production and blocked witnesses from testifying. and therefore, he's obstructing their probe. what's wrong with that argument? >> this is even more ridiculous if we're going to make a comparison. look, the president does not forfeit constitutional prerogatives merely because an impeachment has commenced. he isen tie l tellshe is -- he o withhold the information. the president's advisers including mr. bolton and mr. cupperman have taken it to court. the democrats are eluding litigation. how can you possibly stick the president with obstruction charge because he's asking, and his peopl...

Document production and blocked witnesses from testifying. and therefore, he's obstructing their probe. what's wrong with that argument? >> this is even more ridiculous if we're going to make a comparison. look, the president does not forfeit constitutional prerogatives merely because an impeachment has commenced. he isen tie l tellshe is -- he o withhold the information. the president's advisers including mr. bolton and mr. cupperman have taken it to court. the democrats are eluding litigation. how can you possibly stick the president with obstruction charge because he's asking, and his peopl...

Schiff also said in the report says that the investigation is not over. it sounds like they would talk to my stomach refused to talk to mulvaney. >> bret: is the process of evolving up to other avenues, other things, going back to mueller and the possibility of the other task rectors mike records factoring income is assault possible? >> you open up to mueller and you are going to lose more moderate democrats when it comes to the separate articles of impeachment. i think you may find moderate democrats voting against the articles for abuse of power but for the articles for obstruction where the...