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Those other two men. what does it say about this white house that if they were involved in this and allowed this to continue to happen, say they did, i'm not sure from the reporting so far, what does that say about the culture of the white house that they thought it would be okay to do that? >> this is a white house, you and i both saw during the campaign and it followed them into the white house, but a white house that basically flouts the rules, sometimes brazenly and only sort of corrects their story or corrects their mistruths when they're forced to. even with the rob porter scandal, it wa...

Appeared to show frustration over the response to subpoenas about the dossier. take a listen. we have had document request with the fbi for a long time. they've been stonewalling. the fbi and justice department need to give congress the documents it's been requesting. they need to do so immediately. >> you used the word stonewalling. you think there's intentional stonewalling. >> we've had document requests out there for sometime. >> president trump pledged to shrink the federal government. would seem he's making good on that campaign promise. shows by the end of september, all cabinet positio...

This kind of document request of the inspector general ongoing investigation, could it interfere with that investigation? is it proper to respond? what are the limitations here? >> i think a lot of that is -- requires, as the chairman referenced, us to make sure we're touching base with the inspector general since it's his investigation and not ours. if the inspector general is comfortable with the information being provided and it is not going to interfere with or impede his investigation that's one very significant consideration that can be put to the side. so -- our staff will work with the...

Can this kind or does this kind of document request of the inspector general in ongoing investigations could it interfere with that investigation? is it proper to respond fulsomely? what are the limitations here? >> i think a lot of that is -- requires as the chairman referenced us to make sure that we are touching base with the inspector general, since it's his investigation and not ours. if the inspector general is comfortable with the information being provided and it's not going to interfere or impede the investigation that's one very, very significant consideration that can be put to the ...

Matter that robert mueller would see that as inappropriate as a potential witness. is there anybody else he would go to or take it to rosenstein himself? >> i imagine the document request was sent to the liaison. one thing i'm not sure about is if it's a subpoena or demand that doesn't have the force of law but to the extent the deputy attorney general is a witness in this case and right to say that this aspect of the case suggests he might be, then the natural order of things oversight would fall to the associate attorney general, rachel brand who would be responsible for managing the departm...