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This is -- i mean, there's evidence they are for an adocument. a trial would have republican witnesses, trump republicans testifying against donald trump. with an expansive documentary record and texts in realtime from the election day and before, all the way through to january 20th. >> what do you think? >> i'm going with a different view. one, i don't think they need to. i think the justice department is moving. i think they're looking at every aspect of this right now. there's no real authority to do it. it would just be the committee's feeling compelled to do it. quite frankly, we're alrea...

Investigation. they want to complete -- they want to turn over a thorough investigation all at one time over to the justice department, give their report to the american people, and then make whatever referrals they feel are appropriate which the justice department can take up or not. it's up to them. >> do you think they should? >> i definitely think they should. both a referral, but i also think there should be -- i think this is -- i mean, there's evidence they are for an indictment. a trial would have republican witnesses, trump republicans testifying against donald trump. with an expansiv...

Bipartisan commission that was unfortunately blocked by republican leaders in the house and the senate. that was a beautiful moving, stirring speech. i told liz afterwards, and it is a question of basic political morality and ethics. i think anybody who has not reallying drunk the kool-aid here understanding that it is completely contrary to the facts. joe biden beat him by more than 7 million votes, 306-232 in the electoral college and 61 federal and state court cases brought by donald trump refuted all of his claims of electoral corruption and electoral fraud. so we have a meticulous documen...

I think anybody who has not really drunk the kool aid here understands that trump's big lie is completely contrary to the facts. joe biden beat him by more than 7 million votes, 306-232 in the electoral college and 61 federal and state court case brought by donald trump refuted all of his claims of electoral corruption and electoral fraud. so we have a meticulous documentary record across the country how all of those things are lies. as you know, don, even when they concocted that project in arizona, their own people came back and said joe biden even got a few more votes than originally we tho...

The right -- >> has the white house been in contact with your committee? and has the white house counsel been involved in the engagement with former-chief of staff mark meadows or other administration officials to determine to what degree they can testify without violating any kind of executive privilege? >> well, let's see. i'm not quite sure i -- i got your whole question there. i -- >> has -- has -- has the white house been in contact with your committee and been involved with the discussions with mark meadows or others? >> no, i'm not aware of that. um, look. what -- what we're doing -- ou...