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Of the volunteer witnesses today. and, will continue that process, we'll have other subpoenas scheduled to come out. those who don't to agree to come in and voluntarily, will be criminal referrals. and make that process work out. >> joining us now, daniel goldman, the former in house -- majority counsel for the first impeachment trial. of donald trump. he's also former assistant u.s. attorney, from the sovereign district of new york. -- daniel, thank you very much for joining me tonight. there's a lot in one benny thompson just said, including that reference to they've already started question...

Did somebody sit down with her, and even if she wasn't required to sign the form was she required to have a discussion about her documents, where they were and how they were going to be tracked in the event documents subpoenas or requests came in? >> well, i think one there is long been a responsibility placed on the individual, whether that's the secretary of state or others leaving a department to archive or print out or account for their e-mails and/or their documents that they show their work while they were here at the state department. every secretary of state has a checkout process. i d...

Lot about. we on the show have talked a lot about this of-109 and did she sign the separation agreement before she left. and i know you've now said you don't believe she did. but let me ask you this -- >> she did not. >> now you can say definitively she did not? >> well we don't have record of her signing it yes. as same we don't have record of other past secretaries. it hasn't been standard for past secretaries to sign this form. >> okay. so my question to you is whether -- was she outprocessed? did somebody sit down with her, and even if she wasn't required to sign the form was she required ...