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Hopefully told the jury point blank i am a constitutional expert. he was pretty alienating in his testimony, steph. but here is what is sort of helps explain. there was some prior testimony about the prior constitution introduced to the jury that elmer rhodes said, listen, if donald trump doesn't invoke the insurrection act, and deny joe biden his win, the oath keepers will take matters into their own hands. apparently, that's because elmer stewart rhodes decided the election was unconstitutional they'll be back on the stand monday, and i think that provides some foreshadowing of what we can e...

Was when his little boy are asked him, sir, do you believe the election was stolen? and he said, i believe, and i have concluded, the election was invalid and unconstitutional. his words. but then the surprise was rhodes went on to explain that, it wasn't because of all this fraud stuff as he put it. but it was because some of the states had changed the voting protocols as a result of the pandemic. so, apparently somebody made stewart rhodes the arbiter of what is and is not a constitutional presidential election. he determined it was unconstitutional and he hopefully told the jury point blank...

Doesn't invoke any deference to the elected branches to regulate guns. so that's one thing that stuck out to me. another is that the majority in dobbs faulted the casey standard of undue burden because it didn't give guidance lower courts, where the bruin decision announced a new standard for seamed cases and itself didn't give guidance to lower courts on how to interpret that. those are a couple things looking at the opinions back to back that really stood out to me as just two days apart these opinions and they go in opposite directions. >> yeah. joan, just to this broader point, i thought y...