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He is coming at it having been in private life for several years. even though he's been a television commentator, last time he was governor of new jersey coming off of a big scandal so there are a lot of differences, the biggest is his main reason for getting in, which is to try to from his perspective save the party and maybe even the country from somebody he knows personally now he believes it quite dangerous and that's donald trump. >> very sharp critic of trump over the past year or two. scott jennings, christie's background is a former federal prosecutor, seems to put him in a unique posi...

For human rights around the world is really important. but doesn't that, what you've just outlined as the approach, doesn't it lead to terrible problems? for example, amnesty international, admittedly not the group you worked for, but obviously a very closely associated organisation, they issued a report last year on the ukraine war in which they explicitly criticised ukrainian forces for firing from civilian areas, including close proximity to schools and hospitals. now, that was a report that absolutely infuriated not just president zelensky and the ukrainian government, but many other indep...

Again, this is really important, because i think most of us believe that advocating for human rights around the world is really important. but doesn't that, what you've just outlined as the approach, doesn't it lead to terrible problems? for example, amnesty international, admittedly not the group you worked for, but obviously a very closely associated organisation, they issued a report last year on the ukraine war in which they explicitly criticised ukrainian forces for firing from civilian areas, including close proximity to schools and hospitals. now, that was a report that absolutely infur...

Again, this is really important, because i think most of us believe that advocating for human rights around the world is really important. but doesn't that, what you've just outlined as the approach, doesn't it lead to terrible problems? for example, amnesty international, admittedly not the group you worked for, but obviously a very closely associated organisation, they issued a report last year on the ukraine war in which they explicitly criticised ukrainian forces for firing from civilian areas, including close proximity to schools and hospitals. now, that was a report that absolutely infur...

Inside ukrainian territory? i mean, look, obviously, russia was the aggressor. i'm not, i'm not denying that. but human rights watch, in the way it operates in a situation like that, we always report on both sides. in fact, human rights watch recently reported on ukrainian use of land mines, even though, you know, the vast majority of the war crimes are by the russians. but we adopt that position of neutrality because we see it as the best way to promote respect for humanitarian law. so when we approach one side, they don'tjust dismiss us and say, "oh, you're the partisan for the other side." ...