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They're quite enthusiastic because they want to get weapons that will work 10 or 20 years from now, not buy old-fashioned tanks and artillery. >> so i've got to ask you about your number one fan -- >> yes, sir. >> donald trump. >> i'm a fan of his, too, on china. >> so, there are people -- there's a debate, i think, within the administration. >> yes. >> and i've heard this debate between people who say let's just get -- let's scare the bejesus out of them and get a good deal. >> yes. >> then go back to normal. and then there are people who say, no, we need a fundamentally different strategy. w...

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Least 18 years, if not longer. his view is closer to the lighthizer/navarro view. yes, we should get a deal, but it should be enforceable, verifiable, let's not get tricked again. the chinese know all this. they know about the two factions. it's in their newspapers every day. they copy the "wall street journal" reporting on it. the chinese view is let's make a low-ball offer that will please steve mnuchin and larry kudlow and exacerbate the split between these two groups, see what happens. because others and probably myself would not like an agreement that's like the old salt agreements that, ...

Speak for themselves. president trump is expected to return from camp david shortly. he's there for a pow-wow essentially outlining the nation's 2019 priorities. we'll let you know if he says much when he returns to the white house. during that 20-minute-long back and forth with reporters on the way back to camp david, president trump also said this. >> i can say this. everybody is playing games, but i can say this. i think that the democrats want to make a deal, i really do. i feel that. >> reporter: what is the deal? will you come down? >> we'll call it something different. >> so while eve...

Democratic nations over autocratic nations. thirdly, i think what's interesting is that in the end, president trump wants the deal, and he often advertises that he wants the deal more than anything else. we'll see this tested in the shutdown, which is obviously in some ways a economic question. but if you think about the chinese trade quote/unquote war, if you think about the north korea example, in the end, he doesn't want go over the edge, and i think people are figuring that out. >> all right, when we come back, president trump said this morning as he departed for camp david that if anybody...