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The rationale that the supreme court -- how they handled this? a lot of people are disappointed with chief justice roberts and the idea that the supreme court may be looking beyond the constitutions for motivations that typically don't come into play. >> normally the court does not ask about motivations. the statute here that authorizes asking any other than how many people live there requires the government to give them motivation. the government dropped the ball by not giving a credible motivation. they said we need these numbers to enforce the voting rights act. nobody believes that. it not...

Has to make sense. that's what impaled the government's argument in the supreme court. steve: they blew it. >> correct. the reason they gave didn't make any sense. the reason they gave was we want to help enforce the voting rights act. the voting rights act is not enforced by the commerce department. it's enforced by the justin department. b it doesn't apply in three quarters of the state. c the justice department didn't ask for any help. this reason you gave according to chief justice roberts is contrived. you made it up. we will not let do you it. a week later the brass of the doj. i don't k...

Because executive privilege doesn't apply to the other years that she's spent with donald trump and being his confidant. what will she say and what won't she? >> well, it doesn't sound like she is going to be forthcoming on anything they care about with regard to obstruction of justice. whether she was involved in changing the statement at the president's direction that would have been untruthful about the trump tower deal in moscow, discussions that were had at trump tower about it. and that's what people want to know. so the larger question is whether executive privilege is appropriate here,...

Funny reagan mug. >> those people tattling, nothing ever happens. this is understood to be trivial and minor and irrelevant. what is outlined here is repeated brazen violations and zero acts of contrition, she does not care that she is breaking this rule. the president likes what i'm doing, i'm going to do whatever i want. >> shannon: there will be any appetite for doing something different, as you said, if the white house has special powers it essentially doesn't apply. >> it could go the way of the logan act, people talk about it when they're angry. it does get enforced in other agencies. >>...

Assert executive privilege during her time in the campaign. they want to focus on her time during the campaign behalf she joined the administration. >> they would try to expert executive privilege if she wanted to talk about her time in the white house. >> we've seen them off this really expansive definition. as jeff said executive prish ledge plainly doesn't apply. for example the time before donald trump was president. but there are still these open areas in we could see a white house that has really offered an extraordinarily brown privilege that fits officials who were not government offic...