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That time. they talk to other associates. talked to other people that could kind of close the gaps that they are not getting from these other people that have stonewalled them and it is -- this is evidence. this is, as you say, bearing fruit that the investigation is making progress. >> and just back to my legal question for a second, because i'm still confused. the reason they wouldn't want to subpoena a colleague is because they don't think that the department of justice would support that? why is that such treacherous terr territory? >> right. so i think it is a little bit of what goes arou...

Information. in a moment, we'll get reaction from dr. mac siegel. fear to jonathan serrie. good afternoon. >> good afternoon, trace. over the course of the pandemic, the cdc has published lots of general information on covid-19's impact on the elderly, minorities, people with underlying health conditions. in an article in sunday "new york times" says the agency is yet to release more detailed or granular demographic information that could help state and local health officials better target their efforts to fight the pandemic. according to the times, the performance of vaccines and boosters par...

Miscalculation now. >> trace: very quickly, i was going to say you're talking about a germany that relies on energy from russia. so there's push back there my next question is trey yingst was talking about the preparations going into effect right now, sending troops and tanks in. would that slow down the overall, if there's an overall and wider campaign in to the broader part of ukraine? >> yeah, first of all, you're not talking about u.s. troops or nato troops. it's not a nato country. so article 5 doesn't apply. if zelensky does that, he will lose his army. putin has arrayed an incredible am...

If he puts out one of his flanks and fights from the mean pa river to the east, i think he's going to be in pretty good shape. then he's got to go into conflict resolution, turn to the u.n. and say, okay, now what are with some -- this is not a nato fight because there are no nato forces there. ukraine is not a member of nato, so article v doesn't apply, an attack on one is an attack on all. is so they're on hair own, and it's unfortunate because they're facing an overwhelming amount of forces in the russian army. eric: the clock is ticking. the secretary of state meeting with sergey lavrov ne...

It doesn't apply. but that's what people want. they want to no fly zone. they want to see harder sanctions. they want to see more from the west. they want bank transfers not to go through. they won anything from the west to not stop this advance. i heard them say if we are fading here, we're night -- we have heard that in the past and former conflicts, the idea that the ideology or that vladimir putin presents will spread further and further as this conflict goes on. >> people have been watching this on tv in the past few weeks they become familiar with some of this geographically. less with l...