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To lead that. >> harry, i've got to say, you saw the police spokesman soon after that shooting coming out and saying the officer was, you know -- laquan mcdonald lunged at the officer. the video certainly doesn't bear that out at all. >> no. i mean, i spoke about this before also. i think that officer acted improperly in the laquan mcdonald shooting. that officer is going to pay the price. >> but the fact that this lasted for a year -- >> well, that's a question. i've investigated a lot of shootings like that. dozens of them. all right? two weeks, it should be over. >> when you worked for inte...

Lot of force to create an injury to the spine like he suffered from. so it doesn't bear on the issue of how it occurred. even if that's the implement we can accept that. >> in the investigation, which is the yield of a black police commissioner a black state attorney here the prosecutor a black mayor and it comes this thick and it says here's what happened. freddie gray got jostled around sure. but he was able to walk in. he banged his head because he was angry and he was thrashing and they had to shackle him and the extra stop was because we had to go back there again because he was so violen...

That person. >> i'm not here talking about firing kathleen sebelius. i think very much as you go to court with evidence, you don't shred the evidence before you find out what happened. we need secretary sebelius to explain to us what happened, those red flags you mentioned are very important. so to go back to the first point, i'm not trying to defend obama care at all. i'm not trying to defend a principle of delaying it. we know the american people are going to be forced into a system that isn't ready for prime time. whether that's delaying obama care, whether that's scrapping obama care, that...

At all. >> megyn: what law enforcement talked about this journal that was sent to the psychiatrist? >> what she knows is relevant to another issue, which is, was a court order violated. >> megyn: right. somebody violated a gag order. >> right. but it really doesn't bear at all on guilt or innocence or what happens at the trial and i guess i hope that the judge, when the judge has a chance to look at this, read the briefs, har the lawyers argue, might conclude that this isn't the sort of case where you ought to put a journalist in jail. >> megyn: the guy's attorney offered to have him plead gui...

When i'm the chairman of a committee, i'm in control, and what the president says doesn't bear upon what i do. so, obviously, he just likes trump's efforts on comey and describing the trump tower meeting again tonight, his own intervention is what caused that unusual reminder, even rebuke from a republican, that it is that guy, grassley, not trump, in control right now. i'm joined first by congressman eric swalwell, a democrat from california, member of the house intelligence committee, and a familiar face on these stories. sir, your view for us on what it means that the testimony was released...