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Writer about serious things and a serious documentary—maker. you've already told me a little bit about yourjewish family history, you've explored in documentary form holocaust denial. you have written a book — this one, jews don't count, which looks at what you see as the failure of the progressive left, particularly in the uk, to take full account of anti—semitism as one of the discriminatory prejudices that taint society, you think somehow... ..as your title suggests, jews don't count. is it easy to tackle these serious subjects when your reputation is that of a very funny man? i don't...

Against that kind of an outcome? if the rule of law were failing, it's conceivable that i might. >> i also wonder, though, michael, because a lot of people, they may actually think that it's true even when it's not. i would hope that as you evaluated a situation like that you would be doing it based on facts. but you hear the perception of so many people, maybe on both sides of the spectrum depending on who is commander in chief, and they do feel like those conditions are basic live all met. so what does that mean? >> reporter: it's frightening, brianna. when you get into the cross tabs of the...

Thereby delaying the vote on the bill. by this morning, when he finally quit, he had gone on for more than 8 1/2 hours speaking on the floor of the house, and good for him. aside from, you know, the content of his speech, which doesn't bear much -- shouldn't require too much of your time. frankly, as a tactic, long speeches, very, very, very long speeches are a tried and true way for legislators to dramatize and draw attention to their objections to something that is going to happen anyway, and that is what he did. but he did that until after 5:00 in the morning. and then they reconvened the h...

Elected officials who do this, and there are very few of them in colorado at least, know exactly what they're doing, that it doesn't matter, if we put something on television and say it's false, they still have the ability to get it out so the trick for us going forward, and i think the challenge for a lot of local journalists covering elected officials and members of congress is to figure out how do we report on what they're saying if it's cruel or false or bigoted without just relentlessly amplifying it, but also without simply ignoring it? so for us at 9 news in colorado, we've gone public ...

..as your title suggests, jews don't count. is it easy to tackle these serious subjects when your reputation is that of a very funny man? i don't know. i mean, for some people, it will be. for me, it isn't. the book has got quite a lot ofjokes in it. i don't really see clear boundaries between funny and, i guess, intelligent or whatever you might call it. that wasn't a very intelligent sentence, so it doesn't bear that out very well. but what i mean is the book is complex. it's trying to draw some quite complex intellectual ideas around how anti—semitism has been a neglected thing that the p...